.2% on 200 or 250 dungeons?

Hi. Just Made my dullahan. Now i can Do 200 dungeons for like 20stam for ancients or 250 dungeons for Chaos for like 80stam. What is the path to go?
Ty for your advice

Edit: its 60stam for 250 dungeons

You probably won't be able to do 250 dungeon when the 4x dungeon spawn rate end outside of world boss time, so do 250 while it last and then fall back to 200.
The rewards are consistent for each tier so basically you use like 20% more stamina to avoid the combine of the tier below

thanks efreet.
i really appreciate your fast answers

hmm i also same with u..only got dullahan. and two ultra god fire n water.. 20 stamina for lvl200 dung to farm ancient.. not worth to go higher and chance to get ancient also quit hard..if boss dead quick..

what ur lvl atm.. if u < 200. u better farm lower dungeon. hold lvl until u can do S rank then only start moving up to next lvl dungeon.. i ald surpass lvl 200..so only focus lvl200 dung minimum that i could see.

You can farm 250 too but only when more than 5 or so at a time. There are certain hours when are more frequent, check it a couple of days.

I got dullahan, novanus, storm road, dark thunder.
Takes 25-30 stamina for helios200 to get 0.2% for ancient.
At start of wb or during this event, the perseus250 is lasting over 10 minutes. Spend 70-80 stamina or so to get a chaos is a good deal. 170 here, 30 levels to get thanatos I think it's easy. 200energy/230stamina, lvl every wb by hitting pb when wb is down.

Offtopic but when do people stop buying radars? 180, 170, 160?

I wonder if it's worth going for ss or ultra air, or to go straight up on fire/water (Good leader effects), than combine ultra fire/water for a 2nd dullahan, and than combi for thanatos.

galadriel wrote:I got dullahan, novanus, storm road, dark thunder.
Takes 25-30 stamina for helios200 to get 0.2% for ancient.
At start of wb or during this event, the perseus250 is lasting over 10 minutes. Spend 70-80 stamina or so to get a chaos is a good deal. 170 here, 30 levels to get thanatos I think it's easy. 200energy/230stamina, lvl every wb by hitting pb when wb is down.

Offtopic but when do people stop buying radars? 180, 170, 160?

I wonder if it's worth going for ss or ultra air, or to go straight up on fire/water (Good leader effects), than combine ultra fire/water for a 2nd dullahan, and than combi for thanatos.

Don't lvl up too quick. Recommend to stop lvl <lvl200. Where u can start use extra stamina and gain  more monster with less stamina using on that dungeon to gain more monster then wait combine event and do special combine. Thanatos will help alots in dungeon cause high dmg. Fire and water can come later when u have good dmg and it will be very easy. with around 1600ancient. can make around 8 ultra god. that my record.

i'm so envy u, getting dullahan on lvl 170+. Stick to lvl 150 dungeon"Rank S - 4.001% and above (Ultimate to S God)+" Once u have thanatos, u need around 30hits to reach S rank for lvl150 dungeon. The S rank reward is good with less dmg. Lvl 200 dungeon is required around 92hits with thanatos for S-rank.

you will never do 30hits on 150dungeon. it dies way too fast

Uhm one question, if you just got dullahan off the event, meaning the event was dungeon event, how did you farm the dungeons BEFORE you had the dullahan? (even on event)

Or was there a combine event i missed?

i had fire and water ultra before the 2xrecovery event.
When the event started i had jools for special combine.
But its shit now. Most of the time i do not even geht 4x5hit on lvl200 dungeon..
dies way too fast..

I have a dillema right now. Since lvl 100 dungeons now lasts less than 10 secs it's really hard to farm them efficently. I can catch maybe 1/4 of them. Right now I had a situation where I found a lvl 100 just 2 secs after it's discovery and didn't even had the chance to hit it :/ Clicked join, enter, and it was over. So my question, is it possible to do 3 hits on lvl 250 bosses right now? It's really sad that I farmed much more chaoses from lvl 100 with only dullahan, than now with thanatos and fenrir :/

SirWalezy wrote:So my question, is it possible to do 3 hits on lvl 250 bosses right now?

3Hits on 250's is possible. I get about 6-8 hits in before it dies, if I catch it when it comes up. That's enough for me to get 0.800%.

Thx. So there will be a lot of thinking Are there a lot of them?
My main problem is that I don't really have the time to click on search button all day long. Now it's the only way to get a shot at lvl 100 bosses. If you don't go into them right after the discovery you're basically toasted. And even if you manage to hit it there is a risk you'll do like 7kk dmg resulting in an epic and legend, and wasting 5 stamina. On one occasion 5 stamina isn't much but if you get screwed like that 5-6 times/day ( which isn't rare ) it's a noticable blow in the long run. I'd rather have 2 chaos instead of 6 legends and 6 epics.
Nowdays staying at low lvl benefits you, but if you have plenty of time. If not, than it's not that great. Besides with elder + supreme there isn't much you can do really. 5x for chaos lvl 100 ( if you catch it... ), 5-6 for ancient lvl 200, and 6-10 on lvl 150 for ancient also, but most of the time you can squeeze only 1 attack. I was one combination away from Hades this event ( failed dark + air supreme combo ). With an outer I wouldn't have a dillema. 5-7 stamina for chaos on lvl 250 and maybe 25 for an ulti. So I would gladly leave 100, and even 150 alone. But now? Geez  
Time to do the math

It is a mess, I'm interested in my nightly numbers tonight to see if/how far they dropped from pre-event, 4 hrs to go. Almost everything I see drops in less than 30 sec, I would be surprised if there isn't a cap or nerf in a few weeks. And a nerf would be great if they lowered rates proportionately so we have more room to play.

Agreed, dungeons need rebalancing now. I've seen people fail to get 3% on 250 dungeons with the best possible dungeon team (full outer set), even after using jewels for a 10x hit. The only way to guarantee 3% on a 150 dungeon or below is to get it in one hit.

Skezy wrote:It is a mess, I'm interested in my nightly numbers tonight to see if/how far they dropped from pre-event, 4 hrs to go. Almost everything I see drops in less than 30 sec, I would be surprised if there isn't a cap or nerf in a few weeks. And a nerf would be great if they lowered rates proportionately so we have more room to play.

hit 185 dungeons total yesterday (24 hrs), lvl 50 -- 63, lvl 100 -- 44, lvl 150 -- 78. these numbers are in line with what i was hitting pre-event. but they are dieing faster (150 used to least 45-50 sec, now they last 20-35), the 100 was 25-45 sec now is 10-20 sec, the 50 really varies from 5 sec to 90 sec same as before.

server is really slow right now most of the times right now are doubling what they usually are.

dungeon mostly for big hitter and those new player can't catch up since they donig not enough dmg and dont have good dungeon team as well.

Early lvl dungeons are for spenders/campers. Rest can be farmed with enough time.

Unreal is doing dungeons now and he's a non spender and his model would work w new players also.

next wb I get elder dark thanatos.
lvl 181, 12mil atk.
x2 supreme dark dullahan atm, ss air, ss water, s fire (darkthunder, tethys, hellphoenix). Deal 0.45% per 5 stamina on helios, and 0.16% per 5 stamina on 250perseus. 2 hits on jugger = 0.2% legend.

I can't get ancient off helios anymore, and near impossible to get chaos off perseus.
This will change with thanatos, I hope!

GV Needs to change PERMANENTLY! B-A-S- Rank, 0.1/0.6/2.0%

If not, please go back 0.2/0.8/3.0, permanently.
I just feel sorry for those that are stuck between rank 500-210 forever, they'll never reach 200. Unless they put S rank 2.0%

And after the rank change, they need to PERMANENTLY double dungeon discovery rate. Forever.

Think it's worth farming legends honestly? Mine as well stick with salas from 150-200. Icy valley quest.

When do you stop buying radars? When do u xfer from salas to undine or dark ancients? and when should you finish icy valley questline for item? offtopic :/

pb for lvl each wb. It's gonna get hard to level soon enough, 200, 210, 220. I need em PBs!

galadriel wrote:next wb I get elder dark thanatos.
lvl 181, 12mil atk.
x2 supreme dark dullahan atm, ss air, ss water, s fire (darkthunder, tethys, hellphoenix). Deal 0.45% per 5 stamina on helios, and 0.16% per 5 stamina on 250perseus. 2 hits on jugger = 0.2% legend.

I can't get ancient off helios anymore, and near impossible to get chaos off perseus.
This will change with thanatos, I hope!

GV Needs to change PERMANENTLY! B-A-S- Rank, 0.1/0.6/2.0%

If not, please go back 0.2/0.8/3.0, permanently.
I just feel sorry for those that are stuck between rank 500-210 forever, they'll never reach 200. Unless they put S rank 2.0%

And after the rank change, they need to PERMANENTLY double dungeon discovery rate. Forever.

Think it's worth farming legends honestly? Mine as well stick with salas from 150-200. Icy valley quest.

When do you stop buying radars? When do u xfer from salas to undine or dark ancients? and when should you finish icy valley questline for item? offtopic :/

pb for lvl each wb. It's gonna get hard to level soon enough, 200, 210, 220. I need em PBs!

Are ur data correct? how much is ur dungeon dmg?

My dung dmg is 24.8mil, lvl 200 dungeon need around 7stamina to reach 0.2%, meanwhile lvl 250 required around 18~20 stamina to get to 0.2% lol...lvl320 is same as rank lvl200 atm for me.

alexchew_2020 wrote:

galadriel wrote:next wb I get elder dark thanatos.
lvl 181, 12mil atk.
x2 supreme dark dullahan atm, ss air, ss water, s fire (darkthunder, tethys, hellphoenix). Deal 0.45% per 5 stamina on helios, and 0.16% per 5 stamina on 250perseus. 2 hits on jugger = 0.2% legend.

I can't get ancient off helios anymore, and near impossible to get chaos off perseus.
This will change with thanatos, I hope!

GV Needs to change PERMANENTLY! B-A-S- Rank, 0.1/0.6/2.0%

If not, please go back 0.2/0.8/3.0, permanently.
I just feel sorry for those that are stuck between rank 500-210 forever, they'll never reach 200. Unless they put S rank 2.0%

And after the rank change, they need to PERMANENTLY double dungeon discovery rate. Forever.

Think it's worth farming legends honestly? Mine as well stick with salas from 150-200. Icy valley quest.

When do you stop buying radars? When do u xfer from salas to undine or dark ancients? and when should you finish icy valley questline for item? offtopic :/

pb for lvl each wb. It's gonna get hard to level soon enough, 200, 210, 220. I need em PBs!

Are ur data correct? how much is ur dungeon dmg?

My dung dmg is 24.8mil, lvl 200 dungeon need around 7stamina to reach 0.2%, meanwhile lvl 250 required around 18~20 stamina to get to 0.2% lol...lvl320 is same as rank lvl200 atm for me.

agreed, is your data accurate or ?
i have thanatos phobos, 24m damage in dung. i need 6~7 stam to reach 0.2. and 250 need 16~20 stam to reach 0.2....

Data correct yes.
I have dark elder thanatos, 2fire ultra, water ultra, air ss, earth/holy s.
10 stamina for helios 0.2% for an ancient
16-21 stamina for perseus 0.2% for a chaos

Helios aint worth it anymore.
Juggernaut I can get a legend or ancient, depending if I can get that 2nd hit.
Perseus' lvl250 dungeon is where it's at. As long as I can get 4 hits, that's what matters. There's been a few times where I only get 3 hits and fall short, but it doesn't happen too often.

I just hope the dungeons stay as they are after the event, but have a Very Good Feeling that dungeons will die out after this halloween event. They'll need to double the dungeon discovery rate again to fix this problem.

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As for those without thanatos yet, dullahan is part of the way. The entire game starts getting much more F-in fun once you get thanatos and you can farm chaos'!! I believe it's 4 hits on helios for 0.2% on helios with a dullahan, so keep doing that.

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Either way, keep shooting for the next tier dark monster. With my current thanatos, I plan on getting a supreme fire, and supreme water, special combine (SC) those, and SC the 2 thanatos for hades dark outer.

I could careless about quests and farming salamanders anymore since I can get chaos in dungeons. High fire monster is good damage though, and it's the path to getting the next dark, using fire.water=dark combine. I will miss water leader once I do combine to hades, but can easily get a ss or ultra water again rather quick.  Air monsters I'm trying to avoid if I can, it'll just slow me down from getting my next tier dark.  They are good for damage though, but still, getting the next dark is MEGA dmg upgrade.

I'm starting to trash my lower s-ss darks and air using the following formulas: dark+water, dark+holy, air+holy
I might scrap my baal+odin for an earth ultra to use on s-perseus to get supreme water, if it comes to that in the end.

Cheers

Monster Combination Attack Increase Ratios:
https://monsterwarlord.forumotion.com/t1095-monster-combination-attack-increase-ratios


edit:
oh OOPS:
my dullahan data is incorrect above,
Should be 0.045% on helios per 5 stamina (20 stamina for 0.2%)
Should be 0.016% on perseus per 5 stamina (65~ stamina for 0.2%)

Thanatos takes 10stamina for 0.2% on helios
Thanatos takes 20stamina for 0.2% on perseus